Curse

reaper with no name · Dec 02, 2009, 08:10 PM // 20:10

Hey, you. Yes you, the ranger. Are you tired of seeing Crit Barragers and Splinter Barrage Rits doing your job better than you do?

Well, worry no more!

Barrage
All your preparations are removed. Shoot arrows at target foe and 1 foe adjacent to your target per rank of expertise. These arrows strike for +5...17 damage if they hit.

Those Crit Barragers and Splinter Barrage rits will still be able to use Volley, but since it has twice the recharge time of Barrage, they won't be able to take away your raison d'etre any more!

And in this special offer, we're offering it for only 5 easy payments of $19.95! Call now!

madriel222 · Dec 02, 2009, 08:17 PM // 20:17

There's nothing wrong with Barrage. The fact that other classes use this skill a bit better than the primary ranger only shows that there exists good synergy between this and the skills of other classes. The primary ranger still does plenty of things extremely well (condition spreading, front line, interrupting, raw damage), it's fine if they only do Barrage fairly well.

The Drunkard · Dec 02, 2009, 08:17 PM // 20:17

lol@ the people who use splinter barrage- volley or IA is superior.

Barrage is only usefull with GDW, otherwise the damage is terrible.

/notsigned

Desert Rose · Dec 02, 2009, 08:30 PM // 20:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Drunkard

lol@ the people who use splinter barrage- volley or IA is superior.

Barrage is only usefull with GDW, otherwise the damage is terrible.

/notsigned

This, and Barrage+"SY!" > Crit Barrage.

reaper with no name · Dec 02, 2009, 08:32 PM // 20:32

You do know that a warrior with a zealous bow can use barrage, too? And better than a ranger, I might add, since he gets strength and decent IAS?

Just putting that out there.

Desert Rose · Dec 02, 2009, 08:43 PM // 20:43

A warrior needs to hit a least 5 enemies with every use of barrage just to compensate the energy cost of barrage itself, so no, a warrior with a zealous bow cannot use barrage, too.

Eragon Zarroc · Dec 02, 2009, 08:48 PM // 20:48

12 expertise = hit 12 adjacent enemies? O_o

The Drunkard · Dec 02, 2009, 08:52 PM // 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by reaper with no name

You do know that a warrior with a zealous bow can use barrage, too? And better than a ranger, I might add, since he gets strength and decent IAS?

Just putting that out there.

Strength isn't that great (15% AP at best without cons), and you won't even be close to achieving the damage splinter wep does (or criticals as desert rose pointed out).

I'd rather buff barrage's dmg and reduce the number of hits than make it ranger exclusive.

Axel Zinfandel · Dec 02, 2009, 09:05 PM // 21:05

Eh, I was under the impression that people, rangers included, use volley anyway

reaper with no name · Dec 02, 2009, 09:14 PM // 21:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc

12 expertise = hit 12 adjacent enemies? O_o

In theory, yes. But in practice, how often will that happen?

zwei2stein · Dec 02, 2009, 09:24 PM // 21:24

Is this yet another olol-nerf-troll thread?

Tenebrae · Dec 02, 2009, 09:34 PM // 21:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc

12 expertise = hit 12 adjacent enemies? O_o

Hahaha, that was a good one , i think he meant every 2 or 3 ranks. Otherwise its .... :O

The Cake Archer · Dec 02, 2009, 09:51 PM // 21:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc

12 expertise = hit 12 adjacent enemies? O_o

Meteor shower can hit 100 enemies (in theory), but noone cares, because it almost ever happens.

Malache · Dec 02, 2009, 10:37 PM // 22:37

Where did it say that Barrage only hits per lvl of expertise? I musta missed an update somewhere cuz mine still says hits 6 adjacent targets, nothing about hits so many per lvl...

**Marty Silverblade** · Dec 02, 2009, 11:07 PM // 23:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malache

Where did it say that Barrage only hits per lvl of expertise? I musta missed an update somewhere cuz mine still says hits 6 adjacent targets, nothing about hits so many per lvl...

It's part of the proposed idea, not an actual ingame thing. Barrage hasn't been changed ever, afaik.

majikmajikmajik · Dec 02, 2009, 11:16 PM // 23:16

no. barrage is fine.

when your a Ranger primary, who cares about crit barrage or splinter? your the real deal.

Cuilan · Dec 03, 2009, 12:21 AM // 00:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by reaper with no name

Are you tired of seeing Crit Barragers

Didn't Crit Barragers die out after new skills were release and hard mode?

upier · Dec 03, 2009, 01:23 AM // 01:23

Needs more SoH before I start caring for it.

gremlin · Dec 03, 2009, 02:42 AM // 02:42

I like to use a dervish barrage build for holy damage barrage I just wish there were more undead to beat up on.

It might be nice for gw2 to not just have fewer skills but for the primary class to use their own skills better than a secondary can.

I think they intended something along those lines with the primary skill lists it just didn't go far enough.

ElnoreVarda · Dec 03, 2009, 12:24 PM // 12:24

AOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOGOAGPOJADGPOANDGPAONGAODGNIN

This is guild wars, we have synergy and diversity here. Go play wow if you get jealous when other professions use a bow decently well.

Yes, crudely put but stop with the "only primary profession should be able to use this skill". Its bullshit, ruins the point with making builds. Barrage is fine, and with if it is with this mentality you want ER nerfed, I rather see it untouched just to spite you.